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Infidel
11:52 Sat Feb 20
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Cameron is backed into a corner.
His 'deal' isn't worth the paper it's written on. It changes nothing and can in any case be revoked by Brussels after the referendum, which is almost certainly will be.
But that isn't the issue anyway. It was never about migrant in-work benefits or other trivia. This is about sovereignty - do we want our laws to be made in our own Parliament by a government elected by us or by an unelected technocracy in Brussels?
A vote to remain is a vote for Britain eventually to be part of a United States of Europe, to have the same status that Ohio or Alabama has in the US.
That's the whole point of the EU - it is a political project to create a federal, unified European state, but it will differ from the US in that the intention is to run it as a technocratic dictatorship not hindered by elections or accountability to voters.
A vote to remain in the EU is a vote to consign your children and grand children to live in that world. They will lose the political freedom that people have died to secure over centuries. The EU is a giant leap backwards into a world where elites who consider the population to be 'the little people' run everything and decide what you are going to do for a living, where you will live, what you will eat and how you will live your life.
We are living the slow death of freedom and democracy. This referendum is the only way to extricate ourselves from it. You would have to be insane to vote to Remain.
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Mike Oxsaw
11:52 Sat Feb 20
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I think the OUT campaign would do itself no harm whatsoever if it were to "leak" dozens of spoofs (straight banana) stories about what will absolutely happen should the UK leave.
Stuff like:
"Any criminal convicted in the UK, where part or all of that case involved European law, will instantly be released back onto the streets and paid a six-figure compensation."
"Electricity imported from France after a Brexit will not be compatible with any energy saving light bulbs bought in the UK within the last 15 months. In the interests of safety, these will all need to be replaced at your own expense."
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Hammer and Pickle
11:51 Sat Feb 20
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Steady on there Crassusson.
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Hermit Road
11:51 Sat Feb 20
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Comma, I'm genuinely interested in how this agreement could sway someone to decide they want to stay in. What convinced you?
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Crassus
11:49 Sat Feb 20
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Baggins
Agreed mate, wishful thinking on my part perhaps but what a clusterfuck the ewok and the dispicable Salmond would inherit, what with oil prices being so low
We would end up with even more of them down here whining on about how great the old country and how its all England's fault
Scotchers would be the new Jam Rolls
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Toe Rag
11:41 Sat Feb 20
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Cameron really is a dog's anus of a lickspittle EU stooge cunt.
What a wanker!
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Iron2010
11:40 Sat Feb 20
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Come on Borris son!
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Baggins
11:34 Sat Feb 20
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Haha! Crassus, as you say, if that is the outcome we've had an even better result.
Although can you imagine how Brussels will treat them if we vote OUT, they leave the Union, then go back and say they want IN?!
Would be amusing to watch.
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Crassus
11:29 Sat Feb 20
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The Jocks may well influence the result as they did the election
By saying they will want out from the Union if the vote says out from the EU
And in a thrice the country votes Out and Out, Win Win.
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Baggins
11:28 Sat Feb 20
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*stares aggressively at comma*
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11:26 Sat Feb 20
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About as many as we hear people referring to scare stories.
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orwells tragedy
11:24 Sat Feb 20
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How many times will we hear the catchphrase "leap in the dark"?
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Dwight Van Mann
11:24 Sat Feb 20
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Pickles missus filming him getting upped by the karate instructor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_7_Kv65mwo&feature=youtu.be
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Baggins
11:19 Sat Feb 20
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The whole project is a mess and is headed for disaster. We're much better off OUT of it but I expect the scare stories to win people round and so they'll vote to stay in.
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LondonE3
11:15 Sat Feb 20
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Mike Oxsaw 9:41 Sat Feb 20
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11:12 Sat Feb 20
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Well done Dave I can now vote for Bremain. Also a master stroke that twin sphincters Gove and Farage will head the Brexit campaign.
Who will remove the fence splinters from the arse of Doris though?
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Hammer and Pickle
11:09 Sat Feb 20
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Nurse Ratched 10:53 Sat Feb 20
You ought to try it sometime - won't do you any harm at all.
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13 Brentford Rd
10:55 Sat Feb 20
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Didn't see Galoway coming but fair play to him.
Galoway and Farage on the same stage is a sight I never thouht we'd see.
So exactly as predicted, a watered down vague version of what Canlmeron wanted.
The EU showed it's true colours and had to admit that they need us more than we need them and mostly it's a bunch of ponces poncing off the few sucessful nations within it.
The eastern euro countries only worried about UK benefits for their own citizens and admitting that "without the UK we have nothing"
France going after The City, the rest trying to pretend that they are in control whilst they have apparently granted us an even more "special status" which despite all the tough talk proves how much they need us.
All in all a big charade which Cameron will claim as a triumph and the reason to stay in and the EU will hope they have done the bare minimum to persuade just enough UK voters for a majority IN vote.
OUT!
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Nurse Ratched
10:53 Sat Feb 20
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Yeah, thanks for that, Hunter S Thompson.
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BRANDED
10:40 Sat Feb 20
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I've decided to spend the time between now and June travelling around Europe partly because I enjoy it and partly to get the very best sense of it from the other side.
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bobbymoore
10:35 Sat Feb 20
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Boris is definitely the key. Us plebs need someone like him to lead it.
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